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Still need brush pen practice, I’m notoriously anxious when it comes to things I can’t erase. 8C Also I was rushing a bit on the Ôrnêstán letters.

I wrote out an excerpt from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in both Latin alphabet and Ôrnêstán, a la omniglot.com examples. The Ôrnêstán is representative of the English words, so it’s not in their actual language per say it’s just how they would right English words given the sounds of assigned to each letter. That being said, the Ôrnêstán letters ends up reading (in the Latin alphabet as) as:

“Ól xûmäns ór bôrn frê änd êküál ín dígnítê änd rîxts. Ťâ ór éndáwd wíť bôť rêzón änd kánšêéns änd šüd äkt tüwárds wún ánázër ín á spírít óf brózrxüd.”

This is literally pronounced almost the exact same way as American English speakers might pronounce things- except the ‘th’ in ‘another’ and ‘brother’ is a different sort of ‘th’ sound than the one assigned to the letter ‘ť’, which sounds more like the ‘th’ in ‘with’, so I had to use the ‘z’ to get a closer sound. Some English sounds don’t exist in Ôrnêstán and many more Ôrnêstán sounds don’t exist in English. Also a note, a dot is placed between each word so you can tell when they break. lol

The basic difference between the Ôrnêstán alphabet and the Latin alphabet we use for English is that the Ôrnêstán has specific sounds assigned to each letter and don't change their basic sounds ever. They are altered only slightly by the surrounding letters when written in a word. So for example let’s take ‘alphabet’ and convert it to the phoneme assignment of Ôrnêstán, which would make it ‘älfábét’. However this is a bit of a bastardization of Ôrnêstán phonemes, since the accents aren’t the same so this is really only a very rough example...

One of these days, once I’ve worked out some language rules and can actually write a cohesive sentence, I’ll put up an audio pronunciation. Some of the letter are hard even for me to pronounce, but I mark that as a good sign since this isn’t a language spoken by humans and my tongue is lazy, dumb, and American and I have trouble with something as simple as German sometimes. xD

If you want to see just the alphabet: [link]

~bensen-daniel Aug 30, 2012

Aha, this helps a lot with the questions I had looking at your alphabet. One question: why transliterate "rights" as "rîxts" and not "rîts"?

*gutter-child Aug 30, 2012 Student General Artist

Haha I'm glad. Even though some of the sounds still need to be related to the international phonetic symbols.

And actually the way I say 'right(s)' has a bit of an 'h' sound where 'gh' is. It might be my accent, though. :v

~bensen-daniel Aug 30, 2012

Huh. Really? I'm testing it right now by holding my hand in front of my mouth...nope. The only puff of air that comes out is before the sound, as my mouth gets into position to pronounce the r. There ain't no aspiration within the word itself. But that's just my accent. Where are you from?
And geeze, you should get some linguists to visit your hometown, since aspiration in the middle of "right" would be a very interesting retention of velar fricative, which I thought had gone completely extinct in English.
Do me a favor? Do the hand-in-front-of-the-mouth test for "night" "knight" "bright" "tough" and "through" do you feel a puff of air (that isn't an F sound, but made further back in the throat)?

*gutter-child Sep 3, 2012 Student General Artist

I was born in San Diego, CA, but moved to St. Louis, MO when I was 4, so I suppose I have a St. Louis accent... If we're getting into specific areas of St. Louis county I grew up exclusively in the city of Florissant, part of North County. :T I used to know some Spanish as a kid too, being from San Diego and having a Latina baby-sitter, but I've pretty much lost all that now. haha I don't know, I'm telling whatever might be pertinent.

I have no idea if I'm doing it right, but I do get a tiny little push of air before I pronounce the "t" in "night," "bright," et c., even tried some other similar "-ght" words. "Tough" has a more notable sound than "through." I think I'm also getting psyched out and over/under emphasizing while I'm trying to listen and feel. xD I looked up some examples of the voiceless velar fricative and my "h" is a lot less emphasized, it's really more of a whisper compared to what I heard in those examples; it's still at the back of the throat though.
I'm not even really sure if it's a common method of pronunciation in my area, or if I'm an oddity, I suppose a professional really would need to come and have a listen. lol

~bensen-daniel Sep 3, 2012

Well according to this excellent recourse ([link]) and of course ([link]), you SHOULD indeed sound different from say, me (born in Chicago, but on a university campus, and I moved around so much my accent is just sort of Midlands Mush). Nobody says anything about "right" though. Do you notice a difference between "right" and "rights"? What about "see the sights" and "see the websites"?

>> I think I'm also getting psyched out and over/under emphasizing while I'm trying to listen and feel<<

A common problem.

There is a possibility you're just feeling the air from the vowel. A good way to distinguish that would be the word "height." If you pronounce it like I do, you'll feel a strong puff of air on the initial H, followed by a little puff as your throat tenses from the AH sound to the EE sound to produce the diphthong AI, then a little "spit" at the end of the T, (which is interesting in itself: [link]).

>> I suppose a professional really would need to come and have a listen. lol<<
Yeah, they have this thing they stick in your throat and nose, to really measure aspiration. Very cool and uncomfortable

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